A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and Back

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A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and Back

A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and Back

Стваральнік: Charlie Swenson, MD

This podcast series, “To Hell and Back,” is focused on the nature of hellish experiences in life, how people get into them, and to present and discuss tools for coping with hell and getting out. The various podcasts will move back and forth between different varieties of hell in life, and different...

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Dialectics, Democracy, Tyranny, Trump, and the American Way – Episode 125

Dialectics, Democracy, Tyranny, Trump, and the American Way – Episode 125

In the wake of the recent killing by federal agents of two adults in Minneapolis, this podcast represents an attempt to deepen my perspective on these...

2026-01-26 20:10:04 48:04
Does DBT Work as a Model for Understanding and Addressing a Fascist Takeover? – Episode 124

Does DBT Work as a Model for Understanding and Addressing a Fascist Takeover? – Episode 124

DBT’s emphasis on behavioral specificity, validation, and dialectical thinking, while effective for therapy, must be sufficiently grounded in deep mor...

2025-09-23 21:23:45 47:03
Bystanders Get Off the Sidelines Please – Episode 123

Bystanders Get Off the Sidelines Please – Episode 123

In this podcast Charlie reviews the six categories of people in the United States insofar as they are actors in the drama between democracy and author...

2025-08-15 21:23:02 45:34
Moments of Memory & Nuggets of Gold in Piles of Sand – Episode 122

Moments of Memory & Nuggets of Gold in Piles of Sand – Episode 122

In this podcast, Charlie reflects on a recent consultation as a window into the way in which memory is tethered to certain moments, as an example of L...

2025-08-12 19:19:40 35:49
Amputation of Morality: What to Do About It? – Episode 121

Amputation of Morality: What to Do About It? – Episode 121

The perspective within this podcast is that our current political process is seriously dysfunctional, having been taken over by decision-makers who se...

2025-07-04 00:25:41 1:01:20
Getting Out of Hell and Into Reality – Episode 120

Getting Out of Hell and Into Reality – Episode 120

This podcast focuses on the fact that we spend most of our lives living in the stories we tell ourselves about reality, but not in reality itself. He...

2025-06-16 21:26:56 40:14
What the fuck? Dialectics and Improvisation in Therapy and Everyday Life – Episode 119

What the fuck? Dialectics and Improvisation in Therapy and Everyday Life – Episode 119

In this podcast, I explore what is meant by dialectics in general, dialectics in the practice of DBT, and especially what it takes to “do dialectics-i...

2025-05-29 15:57:51 47:35
Wise Mind, Polarization, Dialectics, and Stopping Fascism – Episode 118

Wise Mind, Polarization, Dialectics, and Stopping Fascism – Episode 118

In this podcast, the third in a series, I clarify the place of dialectics in DBT as an antidote to polarization. Using some case examples, I detail h...

2025-05-19 17:58:26 45:52
Learning to Say No Effectively to Fascism – Episode 117

Learning to Say No Effectively to Fascism – Episode 117

To say NO to the forces and practices of fascism in the U.S., effectively enough to stop it, can be frightening. We will borrow from the DBT skills t...

2025-05-01 18:35:58 Працягласць невядома
When Hell is an Attack on Democracy – Episode 116

When Hell is an Attack on Democracy – Episode 116

In this podcast, Charlie draws from DBT in search of ways to understand the current assault on democracy in the United States, and to become more effe...

2025-04-20 18:01:11 56:35
Adapting DBT Skills When Working with Autistic Individuals – Episode 115

Adapting DBT Skills When Working with Autistic Individuals – Episode 115

In this episode, the fourth in a series on autism and DBT, Charlie is again joined by Amara Brooke and Rachel Kraus, two DBT therapists who are autist...

2023-04-26 19:44:06 1:19:46
Challenging, Changing Course, Reframing.  Irreverence in Therapy and Life – Episode 114

Challenging, Changing Course, Reframing. Irreverence in Therapy and Life – Episode 114

In this episode, Charlie explains, and gives lots of examples of, being irreverent in therapy. What is the essence? What is the point? Why is it im...

2023-04-06 15:31:56 1:24:26
Top Ten Tips for Adapting DBT to Autistic Clients – Episode 113

Top Ten Tips for Adapting DBT to Autistic Clients – Episode 113

In the next episode after this one, the same guests will specifically address how to modify DBT skills in working with autistic clients.

2023-03-30 06:09:15 1:13:43
Do we use DBT to target autism?  No – Episode 112

Do we use DBT to target autism? No – Episode 112

Charlie talks further with Amara Brook about autism, neurodiversity, and DBT: how can DBT be adapted, not to target autism itself, but to help autisti...

2023-03-24 04:37:05 1:15:18
Autism, Neurodiversity and DBT – Episode 111

Autism, Neurodiversity and DBT – Episode 111

Beginning with this episode, Charlie talks with Amara Brooke, Ph.D., about autism, neurodiversity, and ways of adapting DBT to help an autistic indivi...

2023-03-16 21:50:56 1:00:46
Wise Mind – Episode 110

Wise Mind – Episode 110

Charlie provides an in-depth discussion of WISE MIND as used in DBT. What is it, why is it so valuable, what are perspectives on it, what are its fea...

2023-03-09 17:00:11 1:00:50
“As Bad A Year As It Was, It Was As Good As It Could Have Been” – Episode 109

“As Bad A Year As It Was, It Was As Good As It Could Have Been” – Episode 109

In a manner that is absolutely true to these words from her DBT and life mentor, Seth Axelrod, Andrea Gold has completed her one year of prescribed tr...

2023-02-23 23:01:01 1:07:44
Guaranteed Success, By Design – Episode 108

Guaranteed Success, By Design – Episode 108

> In part 2 of the conversation with world class trainer Cem Eren, join Charlie and Nicole and enter the Lion’s Den, a practice environment thoughtful...

2022-11-25 01:22:16 46:14
Skillful Mind Training, Embodied – Episode 107

Skillful Mind Training, Embodied – Episode 107

“In this episode, Nicole and Charlie tap into the wisdom that Cem Eren has gained from two decades of training elite NBA athletes, boxers, bodybuilder...

2022-11-17 07:14:24 47:45
Identity Grammar – Episode 106

Identity Grammar – Episode 106

What shapes the syntax of Self? How does context inform our inner lexicons? Are we more than the sum of all our actions?

In this episode...

2022-11-10 19:44:33 1:08:09
Skillful Grieving, Making Meaning from Suffering, and a Dinosaur – Episode 105

Skillful Grieving, Making Meaning from Suffering, and a Dinosaur – Episode 105

In this second of our two-episode conversation with Natalia Garcia about her grieving process over the years since the death of her two-year-old son,...

2022-11-04 00:59:34 1:07:40
Who IS that Woman?! – Episode 104

Who IS that Woman?! – Episode 104

Since Nicole joined Charlie as co-host, several long-time listeners have asked Charlie, Who IS that woman?! It’s actually a great question and the an...

2022-10-28 02:06:50 1:01:16
In Her Own Words – Natalia Garcia on Coping with Loss and Trauma with Opposite Action and an Approach Lifestyle – Episode 103

In Her Own Words – Natalia Garcia on Coping with Loss and Trauma with Opposite Action and an Approach Lifestyle – Episode 103

In 2018, Natalia Garcia spoke with me over three podcast episodes about how she was dealing with the catastrophic and traumatic death of her two year...

2022-10-22 02:52:49 1:26:38
Long Grieving, Complicated Joy, and Flowers That Grow Around a Hole in the Heart – Episode 102

Long Grieving, Complicated Joy, and Flowers That Grow Around a Hole in the Heart – Episode 102

In June of 2018, eight months following the death of her two-year-old son to the Sudden Unexplained Death in Childhood (SUDC), Natalia Garcia joined...

2022-10-13 20:06:24 1:07:54
5 Years, 100 Episodes, 7 Lessons for Surviving Hell – Episode 101

5 Years, 100 Episodes, 7 Lessons for Surviving Hell – Episode 101

In this episode, Charlie reflects on 100 episodes spent exploring human suffering. He synthesizes wisdom from interviews including coping with natural...

2022-10-06 19:39:43 1:11:20
The Long Reach of Loss – Suicide Outside the Immediate Family – Episode 100

The Long Reach of Loss – Suicide Outside the Immediate Family – Episode 100

She also speaks about what it was like for her as someone outside the immediate family after Ross’ suicide: what it was like to be an outsider witness...

2022-09-29 18:03:29 1:00:51
A Brother and a Best Friend Lost to Suicide (Part 3) – Episode 99

A Brother and a Best Friend Lost to Suicide (Part 3) – Episode 99

Teddy talks about being the person to find Ross after he took his life, navigating the mind-numbing administrative tasks that were required of him whi...

2022-09-22 20:12:07 1:04:36
Skillful Coping with Cancer (Part 3):  Friendship is Good Medicine – Episode 98

Skillful Coping with Cancer (Part 3): Friendship is Good Medicine – Episode 98

In this episode, the third of four on how Andrea has coped with Cancer throughout 2022, her best friend Amy joins the conversation and they talk about...

2022-09-15 22:56:33 1:03:49
Death by Suicide of a Charismatic Young Man in a Loving Family (part 2) – Episode 97

Death by Suicide of a Charismatic Young Man in a Loving Family (part 2) – Episode 97

In this episode (part 2), Charlie and Nicole speak with Beth about her son Ross who ended his life two years ago. We hear about Beth, the family, and...

2022-09-01 23:51:58 1:11:34
Death by Suicide of a Charismatic Young Man in a Loving Family – Episode 96

Death by Suicide of a Charismatic Young Man in a Loving Family – Episode 96

In this episode, Charlie and Nicole speak with Beth about her son Ross who ended his life two years ago. We hear about Beth, the family, and Ross lea...

2022-08-31 23:25:19 1:08:18
Principles in Practice – The Narcissist in DBT Therapy- Episode 95

Principles in Practice – The Narcissist in DBT Therapy- Episode 95

In this episode, Charlie and Nicole role play and then discuss a therapy session in which Charlie patiently sifts through the layers of defensive gran...

2022-08-20 17:52:27 1:02:28
Narcissistic Behavior Patterns Through a DBT Lens – Episode 94

Narcissistic Behavior Patterns Through a DBT Lens – Episode 94

In this podcast, Charlie and Nicole contrast DBT versus psychodynamic models for narcissistic patients. Charlie demonstrates how to talk with these pa...

2022-08-12 01:46:47 1:07:19
Skillful Coping with Cancer-Interview 2 with Andrea Gold – Episode 93

Skillful Coping with Cancer-Interview 2 with Andrea Gold – Episode 93

This is the second installment of Charlie’s interview with Andrea Gold, PhD, DBT expert, faculty member of Brown University Department of Psychiatry....

2022-08-05 01:19:46 1:07:45
No Narcissist is an Island – Episode 92

No Narcissist is an Island – Episode 92

In episode 3 of the series on Narcissism Charlie and Nicole illustrate the relational nature of Narcissism. Through role play and discussion, listener...

2022-07-29 05:11:52 1:04:36
Narcissism:  It’s More Nuanced Then You Think – Episode 91

Narcissism: It’s More Nuanced Then You Think – Episode 91

In this episode, the second in our series on narcissism, Charlie and Nicole dissect clinical models and cultural assumptions to illuminate the nature...

2022-07-22 01:56:17 1:04:39
Narcissism and Narcissistic Personality – Episode 90

Narcissism and Narcissistic Personality – Episode 90

In this podcast, Charlie and Nicole talk about narcissism, how it plays a part in all of our lives, how there is a range from healthy to pathological,...

2022-07-14 23:51:46 1:05:22
I Dont Want to Keep the Baby, Can My Partner Understand – Episode 89

I Dont Want to Keep the Baby, Can My Partner Understand – Episode 89

In this episode, Charlie and Nicole role play a therapy session in which the client plans to terminate her pregnancy. DBT skills help her decide if, a...

2022-07-07 23:55:33 1:04:25
Guns, Abortion and Dialectics (from DBT) – Episode 88

Guns, Abortion and Dialectics (from DBT) – Episode 88

In this podcast, Charlie and Nicole look at recent divisive decisions by the Supreme Court through a dialectical lens as developed in DBT. In the spir...

2022-06-30 23:55:02 1:04:57
Skillful Coping with Cancer – An Interview with Andrea – Episode 87

Skillful Coping with Cancer – An Interview with Andrea – Episode 87

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2022-06-27 20:31:44 1:09:18
Dialectical Perspectives on the Gun Violence Debate – Episode 86

Dialectical Perspectives on the Gun Violence Debate – Episode 86

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2022-06-19 23:51:51 53:26
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